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Bobby Kittleberger
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 22 @ 9:20 AM ET
Bobby Kittleberger: Projecting Perry Corey Perry's decline in production can be linked, at least in part, to a lack of power play opportunities for the Anaheim Ducks.
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Aug 22 @ 9:25 AM ET
His totals have dropped since Carlyle re-took the coaching reigns in 2016. Coincidence?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 22 @ 9:34 AM ET
Must factor in the Carlyle effect.... Also I think CP’s health needs to be better and let’s see what changes he made this offseason concerning conditioning. At this point I’d be stoked w/ 22G / 30A on the 3rd line with Rico & Kase - That could be a line with 75G which I think would be solid 3rd line production-
Bobby Kittleberger
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 22 @ 10:15 AM ET
His totals have dropped since Carlyle re-took the coaching reigns in 2016. Coincidence?
- Misterbator


Not even a little bit of coincidence.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
Not even a little bit of coincidence.
- Bob Kittleberger


I’m not entirely sure about that - Yes RC has had some effect but let’s not pretend that CP bears no responsibility here for the drop off in production. He’s also been more than invisible in a couple playoff series going back to that 7 game loss to Detroit.
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Aug 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
Nothing to do with Carlyle, unless Carlyle is telling him not to go to the net. Watch games from the season he scored 50 and was the MVP. He was ALWAYS in front of the net, taking a beating but knocking in loose pucks. Now, he's a perimeter player who is not very fast and has one move that everyone has figured out. If Perry will start going to the net again, I believe his point production will increase, but if he had another season like last season, I think the Samueli's will have to make a tough financial decision.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
Nothing to do with Carlyle, unless Carlyle is telling him not to go to the net. Watch games from the season he scored 50 and was the MVP. He was ALWAYS in front of the net, taking a beating but knocking in loose pucks. Now, he's a perimeter player who is not very fast and has one move that everyone has figured out. If Perry will start going to the net again, I believe his point production will increase, but if he had another season like last season, I think the Samueli's will have to make a tough financial decision.
- duxcup07


Yep he needs to be in front more for sure-
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Aug 22 @ 3:31 PM ET
I predict he will slew foot 5 players by Christmas
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Aug 22 @ 3:42 PM ET
His totals have dropped since Carlyle re-took the coaching reigns in 2016. Coincidence?
- Misterbator


Ask Dustin Brown what a difference a coaching change can make
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Aug 22 @ 5:22 PM ET
I predict he will slew foot 5 players by Christmas
- ChonDerry

I predict he will also whine when anything happens to him.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 22 @ 8:51 PM ET
I predict he will climb over the glass at staples center and clobber a few red neck king fans !
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Aug 22 @ 9:26 PM ET
Since we're still on the Perry blog, there's one other problem I have with some of the other Ducks fans who contribute to this blog, and that's whether Perry is a top 6 winger or not. I've heard people say you have to play him there because of how much he gets paid. I personally don;t give a damn how much he gets paid, that's Murray's and Samueli's problem. If Perry starts to produce, then he belongs in the top 6, but if he has a season similar to last year, then he's a third or fourth liner regardless of how much he's getting paid. I think Carlyle now has the balls to do it too after last season's playoffs when he benched Bieksa in favor of Pettersson. Marcus was playing better than Kevin, so that's that. Very similar situation. Right now, I think the top 6 should be Rackell-Getzlaf-Eaves and Kase-Henrique-Slifverberg.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 22 @ 11:40 PM ET
Since we're still on the Perry blog, there's one other problem I have with some of the other Ducks fans who contribute to this blog, and that's whether Perry is a top 6 winger or not. I've heard people say you have to play him there because of how much he gets paid. I personally don;t give a damn how much he gets paid, that's Murray's and Samueli's problem. If Perry starts to produce, then he belongs in the top 6, but if he has a season similar to last year, then he's a third or fourth liner regardless of how much he's getting paid. I think Carlyle now has the balls to do it too after last season's playoffs when he benched Bieksa in favor of Pettersson. Marcus was playing better than Kevin, so that's that. Very similar situation. Right now, I think the top 6 should be Rackell-Getzlaf-Eaves and Kase-Henrique-Slifverberg.
- duxcup07


Yeah at this point his lack of speed and goal production, I really don’t care about his assists the guy is getting paid to light the lamp- warrant a 3rd line role with Sam & Troy - play Cogs on the 4th and PK with NR & Gibbons
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Aug 23 @ 1:38 AM ET
Since we're still on the Perry blog, there's one other problem I have with some of the other Ducks fans who contribute to this blog, and that's whether Perry is a top 6 winger or not. I've heard people say you have to play him there because of how much he gets paid. I personally don;t give a damn how much he gets paid, that's Murray's and Samueli's problem. If Perry starts to produce, then he belongs in the top 6, but if he has a season similar to last year, then he's a third or fourth liner regardless of how much he's getting paid. I think Carlyle now has the balls to do it too after last season's playoffs when he benched Bieksa in favor of Pettersson. Marcus was playing better than Kevin, so that's that. Very similar situation. Right now, I think the top 6 should be Rackell-Getzlaf-Eaves and Kase-Henrique-Slifverberg.
- duxcup07

Perry was the 3rd leading scorer on the team last year (tied for 4th in goals scored). Eaves missed a year, and nobody knows how Kesler is doing. Let's see how those two are doing first. Line combos are really all up in the air right now. Also, Kase is a RW, and you have him playing LW. I know Henrique has played LW in the past. Haven't read anywhere where Kase is comfortable on his off side. We'll see.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
Perry is done...trade him to the Flyers for Jori Lehtera, Dale Weise and 49% retained.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Aug 23 @ 4:40 PM ET
I keep having the extremely sick thought of a Perry-for-Brown swap (with the Ducks retaining some salary).
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Aug 23 @ 5:07 PM ET
I keep having the extremely sick thought of a Perry-for-Brown swap (with the Ducks retaining some salary).
- Only_A_Ladd

Cure the "sick thought" with the knowledge that swap will never happen. Never. The Ducks fanbase would revolt in mass. Ducks have to retain salary AND be stuck with Brown for an additional year. Nope, never gonna happen.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Aug 23 @ 8:02 PM ET
Cure the "sick thought" with the knowledge that swap will never happen. Never. The Ducks fanbase would revolt in mass. Ducks have to retain salary AND be stuck with Brown for an additional year. Nope, never gonna happen.
- quackup


It would be a glorious mess, though.

I do think Perry will snap back this year. Bobby's prognostication looks doable. I have a hard time believing Perry is finished.
agame99
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 06.29.2018

Aug 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
“During the 2017 - 2018 season he posted a 53.86 CF% (corsi for percentage) and a 56.83 GF% (goals for percentage). He was also fourth on the team in P/60 (points per 60 minutes) at 2.28. He also did all this playing 11 fewer games than the previous season, yet coming within four points of his 2016-2017 total.”

- soooo, your advanced stats say he is productive, but he actually isn’t. Hmmmm
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Aug 25 @ 4:16 PM ET
Well we can't put Perry on the third line because Kesler will probably be there. At some point we need to figure out this weird triangle of players we have in Perry, Kesler ,and Getzlaf. Because for Getzlaf to be successful he needs wingers who can shoot. Which neither Perry or Kesler do well any more. Kesler needs other fowards who play defense which neither Perry or Getzlaf do well anymore. And Perry needs to get touches with the puck which neither Getzlaf or Kesler will allow him to do.

Only thing to do is split them up. Otherwise Getzlaf won't get points , Keslers defense will lag, and Perry will be the 3rd best player on his line.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 26 @ 11:42 PM ET
“During the 2017 - 2018 season he posted a 53.86 CF% (corsi for percentage) and a 56.83 GF% (goals for percentage). He was also fourth on the team in P/60 (points per 60 minutes) at 2.28. He also did all this playing 11 fewer games than the previous season, yet coming within four points of his 2016-2017 total.”

- soooo, your advanced stats say he is productive, but he actually isn’t. Hmmmm

- agame99

not for 9 millon bucks a year
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:47 AM ET
not for 9 millon bucks a year
- rubberduckies

Your comment isn't really thought out. There isn't one person on this board that thinks Perry is worth his contract. So what. That's not the discussion. The discussion was what line he deserves to play on.

Salary arguments are fine when signing a young player, but when someone hits UFA status and signs a contract, to later argue such a contract isn't commensurate with performance is ridiculous. EVERY GM in the league that signs potential (or actual) UFA players does so with the "hope" they play up to the contract. It's either pay them, or they walk, because another team will pony up the money. Think Kopitar will be worth his contract 6 years from now?
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Aug 28 @ 10:59 AM ET
No matter what happens Perry will be overpaid. Guy has passed his prime.

Its up to him and the coach to find ways to be useful and make that contract look somewhat palatable.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 29 @ 7:33 PM ET
Your comment isn't really thought out. There isn't one person on this board that thinks Perry is worth his contract. So what. That's not the discussion. The discussion was what line he deserves to play on.

Salary arguments are fine when signing a young player, but when someone hits UFA status and signs a contract, to later argue such a contract isn't commensurate with performance is ridiculous. EVERY GM in the league that signs potential (or actual) UFA players does so with the "hope" they play up to the contract. It's either pay them, or they walk, because another team will pony up the money. Think Kopitar will be worth his contract 6 years from now?

- quackup

yes it was